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joiedecombatSecond post because the first one ended up being so ridiculously long, dammit.
In no particular order.
1) The Numbers. One of the producers has apparently been quoted as saying they didn't expect the numbers to be this huge phenomenon they've turned into. Which, well, duh. Seen the amount of fanwanked math over on The LOST Numbers?
So, okay. The numbers are significant. But they're probably not that significant. I wouldn't put it past the writers to use some of The Numbers, or combinations of The Numbers, when they need some random numbers to use, just to watch the fans scurry. For now, I'm not going to give too much weight to appearances of the numbers unless they're pretty obvious, like Kate's toy plane being in safe deposit box #815. What the significant numbers mean? I got no clue yet.
2) Push The Button, Desmond. So Desmond thinks if he doesn't push the button every 108 minutes, Something Really Bad will happen. But he doesn't know what. Because the Orientation video didn't say. And Kelvin probably didn't know either. The only thing they have other than Dharma's instructions that indicates that there's anything threatening around the station is that magnetic anomaly, which could just be a big damn electromagnet, and how would they know the difference?
Considering that they don't know, and Dharma did cite B. F. Skinner as an influence, I call that the whole button-pushing gig is bogus. It's some kind of psychological experiment. Nothing will happen if it's not done, or at least nothing that bad.
3) Conspiracy! There's definitely a conspiracy involved somewhere. But who's responsible?
The first and most likely candidate is the Dharma Initiative, with or without assistance from the Hanso Foundation. After all, they're into all that weird science and they cited Skinner as an influence and they clearly have, or at one point had, a presence on the island. So option one boils down to "Dharma is the bad guys."
However, we've yet to have it proved that Dharma is actually still there. We've just seen the stations - one of which was abandoned - and the logo on the shark. Which could mean that Dharma was there but Something Happened, and some other group is responsible for the conspiracy, and perhaps also for Dharma no longer being around.
And, really, the only thing worse than being locked in a bunker for three years with nothing to do but push the button every 108 minutes as part of some crackbrained psychological experiment is being locked in a bunker for three years with nothing to do but push the button every 108 minutes as part of some crackbrained psychological experiment which is no longer actually being run, because the people who were running it are gone and you just never knew it.
Tangentially, the Others are either associated with whoever's responsible for the Conspiracy or they're a different group. And if Dharma is no longer responsible for the conspiracy, then the Others might be what's left of Dharma. But frankly, I don't have many ideas on which way they're going with that yet.
4) They're All Dead / It's All Just A Dream - nixed by the Powers That Be, thank God.
In no particular order.
1) The Numbers. One of the producers has apparently been quoted as saying they didn't expect the numbers to be this huge phenomenon they've turned into. Which, well, duh. Seen the amount of fanwanked math over on The LOST Numbers?
So, okay. The numbers are significant. But they're probably not that significant. I wouldn't put it past the writers to use some of The Numbers, or combinations of The Numbers, when they need some random numbers to use, just to watch the fans scurry. For now, I'm not going to give too much weight to appearances of the numbers unless they're pretty obvious, like Kate's toy plane being in safe deposit box #815. What the significant numbers mean? I got no clue yet.
2) Push The Button, Desmond. So Desmond thinks if he doesn't push the button every 108 minutes, Something Really Bad will happen. But he doesn't know what. Because the Orientation video didn't say. And Kelvin probably didn't know either. The only thing they have other than Dharma's instructions that indicates that there's anything threatening around the station is that magnetic anomaly, which could just be a big damn electromagnet, and how would they know the difference?
Considering that they don't know, and Dharma did cite B. F. Skinner as an influence, I call that the whole button-pushing gig is bogus. It's some kind of psychological experiment. Nothing will happen if it's not done, or at least nothing that bad.
3) Conspiracy! There's definitely a conspiracy involved somewhere. But who's responsible?
The first and most likely candidate is the Dharma Initiative, with or without assistance from the Hanso Foundation. After all, they're into all that weird science and they cited Skinner as an influence and they clearly have, or at one point had, a presence on the island. So option one boils down to "Dharma is the bad guys."
However, we've yet to have it proved that Dharma is actually still there. We've just seen the stations - one of which was abandoned - and the logo on the shark. Which could mean that Dharma was there but Something Happened, and some other group is responsible for the conspiracy, and perhaps also for Dharma no longer being around.
And, really, the only thing worse than being locked in a bunker for three years with nothing to do but push the button every 108 minutes as part of some crackbrained psychological experiment is being locked in a bunker for three years with nothing to do but push the button every 108 minutes as part of some crackbrained psychological experiment which is no longer actually being run, because the people who were running it are gone and you just never knew it.
Tangentially, the Others are either associated with whoever's responsible for the Conspiracy or they're a different group. And if Dharma is no longer responsible for the conspiracy, then the Others might be what's left of Dharma. But frankly, I don't have many ideas on which way they're going with that yet.
4) They're All Dead / It's All Just A Dream - nixed by the Powers That Be, thank God.
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After Reading Recaps, Some Deranged Rambling...
Date: 2005-10-29 04:40 am (UTC)Part of this is that I read way too many horror novels and have been involved with a few too many Mage/CoC games. I mean, I saw the "Numbers" episode and...okay, Mysterious South Pacific Island broadcasting Probability-Fucking Math. And not just any Probability-Fucking Math, *Evil* PFM, and there are guys in mental hospitals raving about how Hurley has turned the EPFM loose on the world! GAH! What the hell? Is Dharma composed of Nephandi? Does the button-pressing actually break down the barriers between worlds or something?
Gah, I say. GAH. I am Le Creeped.
Also: Dharma, and the guy on the tape says "Namaste." But the project was founded by two people named DeGroot, in Michigan, so we can assume they're not just going by ethnic roots. I'm not sure what this means. I *am* sure that I'm going to make my devout Hindu friend guy watch this, *at gunpoint if necessary*, so he can interpret.
See what you've made me do? Now I'm all obsessey!